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and very few people who the president could hold accountable. in addition to that, this man, steven miller, the acting commissioner of the irs, did go in front of congress on several occasions to testify that this targeting, the filtering of conservative groups was not taking place, now we know because of the i.g. report that was happening. so, he had lost some credibility, but beyond that the administration had to have some accountability if they wanted to get through the week so we had secretary lew asking for the resignation and getting it, aka, he was fired. >> in terms of the political climate and premium accountability right now, the president's due to take questions tomorrow at his news conference where he'll be standing there with the prime minister of turkey, poor guy is going to have to stand through all of this american politics that's not going to make much sense in a turkish contest, but you never know. with everything going on in washington right now and the fact he's going to be standing next to the turkish guy, what do you think the president is likely to get the most heat
tomorrow with steven miller, the very man who was fired yesterday as acting chair, acting commissioner, rather, of the irs. i asked what he wants to know from stephen miller. listen to what kevin said. >> i want to know what he knew, when he found out. and why he didn't disclose any of this to the congress knowing that we were inquiring about this, because we had been hearing that people had been targeted and we were trying to get answers. i want to know what he knew. i want to know when he knew it and i want to know from his standpoint what they've done to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> reporter: this is kind of a rare thing and unusual. a man who was just fired a couple days later will now be testifying on capitol hill. we were wondering whether or not he was going to show up. dave kevin said, yes, he will show up, his lawyer told him so, one of the reasons is stephen miller is there for the irs. even though he was asked to leave, he is still the floor per congress when they do tear oversight into what exactly happened at the irs. >> stand by on that. still with the same top
of the irs have a different story? steven miller is set to testify about his knowledge of the irs scandal.
's stay away from that. >> let's stay on irs and let's stay on benghazi. steven miller gets to resign. eric holder promised to look into it. maybe even lois learner who herself claimed to know this was going on. >> why does she still have her job though? this is not just a moral, ethical obligation that they have to the american people that they violated. they need to go to jail. bad people go to jail. when you cheat and steal from people, they go jail. you take information from people, that's got to shock you, bob, amongst some of the -- >> it does shock me. we're trying to figure out what law you -- >> i've got this one. they leaked proprietary information from 503c 3s and 4s. they leak the that to their opposition. >> so you charge them with conspiracy to -- >> what do you charge them with? >> i think there's also a law of incompetence that was broken here. steve miller is the acting commissioner of the irs. i think the white house would have preferred he would have gone quietly in the night. he's going to testify tomorrow. we're going to hopefully learn some more. but he was alrea
. >> reporter: one reason for that congress says the irs lied to them last year. lawmakers say steven miller and his predecessor lied when congress questioned the irs about targeting conservative groups. both said last year that no such practice was in place. but an inspector general's audit revealed this week that they were aware. they want to know how the irs started screening conservative groups. if they told the white house what it was doing, if the irs leaked confidential information to groups and much more. some analysts say this is a huge culture problem considering so many at the irs new what was going on and no one stepped up. we'll get a first look at what is happening at that hearing in the next hour. >>> there is new concerns about the future of obamacare office. the irs official who oversaw the unit accused of targeting the tea party is now the head of that office. sarah paul had been serving as commissioner for the office of tax exempt organizations from 2009 to 2012. now she is in in charge of enforcing parts of the health care law including the fines associated with the requi
george has been the treasury inspector general for tax administration since 2002, and mr. steven miller who escorted the acting commissioner for the irs. thank you both for being with us today. you will each have minutes to presentyour testimony, with your full written test 27 for the record. mr. george, we will begin with you. you're recognized for five minutes. >> chairman camp, ranking member levin, members of the committee thank you very much for the opportunity to discuss our report concerning oversight by the internal revenue service of groups that apply for tax-exempt status. as you are aware the organization that i laid, the treasury inspector general for tax administration, protects the integrity of the federal tax system. our audit was initiated based on concerns expressed by members of congress because of taxpayer allegation that they were subject to unfair treatment by the irs. our report issued earlier this week addresses three allegations. first, the irs targeted specific groups applying for a tax them status. second, that they delayed the processing of these groups applic
. again these are live pictures. this is steven miller here. in a prepared statement he said while the irs made mistakes, they were caused by a desire to efficiently handle a growing number of applications for tax exempt status and not caused by political viewpoints. >>> cell phone video given to us here at ktvu news shows five people being arrested inside a san francisco state dorm. but it's raising questions about whether officers went too far. ktvu brian flores is there with the video and the two very different stories we are hearing from police and the people involved. >> reporter: it is raising questions, pam, good morning. the five people that were detained and later arrested were redeemed as trespassers while the person who shot the video says they are not. now this is video recorded by person who says thher friend only identified by carlos being detained by campus police. she says her and four others were invited to the dorms by friends. it was peaceful not at all a protest. they were also clips in the video of officers using a flashlight to hit one of the people in the ribs. here'
to get them by holding the first hearing on the irs scandal. outgoing commissioner steven miller was asked to testify before the house ways and means committee. >> as acting commissioner i want to apologize on behalf of the irs for mistakes we made and poor service we provided. >> do you believe it is illegal for employees of the irs to create lists to targeted individual groups and citizens in this country? >> i don't believe it is. >> you know the terms tea party patriots were being used and you acknowledged they were outrageous. when you were asked about this after you were briefed that was the answer i gave snus how can we conclude you mislead the committee? >> i did not. >> can you assure this committee that none of this information by was shared or given to any other federal agency? >> i would be shocked, congressman, if that happened. >> kimberly: i think they are just getting started. i would say this is the tip of the iceberg. >> eric: yesterday, we ran the soundbite of eric holder. the sound on tape montage, i don't know, i don't know. i can't say. i don't know. we did
of the irs apologized today for the tea party scandal. today's committee was the first time that steven miller has spoken out about the can throw verse see. he said that he is sorry that the agency singled out conservative group for extra tax scrutiny but insisted that the errors were not motivated bipartisan politics. >> i think that what happened here was that foolish mistakes were made by people trying to be morey fishent in their workload selection. >> but the republican chair of the committee says that the problem goes beyond personnel issues. he said the irs has become too large and, quote, too abusive of honest, hard working taxpayers. >> the controversy over the use of airplanes is heating up. what congress wants to do to stop the unarmed planes. >> the heist involving a million dollars in jewelry at the film festival. >> the e usof held a hearinthe use of drones over the america. lawmakers are concerned that uncreased use of the unmanned aircraft could invade the privacy of citizens and used for spying. >> it will change the way of what people think of a public space. >> congre
, saying the arrogance was breathtaking on the part of particularly steven miller. and i have to say it was palpable. i have never seen such obvious% disdain for a committee, for the congress of the united states. he talked as man who, i don't know, it was embarrassing to watch. it was an insult to the american people and our system of government. what are your thoughts? >> yeah, it was. i mean, look, i can't fault the guy for disdain for congress. i mean, i share that disdain for congress, broadly understood. [laughter] but, but, i mean, you could see on his facial expressions he didn't want to answer their very basic questions, and when it was pointed out to him -- i'd say very inconveniently -- that he had this information, he was asked about it, he chose not to provide the details of what the irs was doing, what the irs knew about what it was doing. when he was asked these questions and when he was pressed on this, he sort of smirked and said, well, look, i answered the questions you asked. he certainly withheld a lot of the truth in a way that i think is not going to look good f
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. >> reporter: at a hearing on the irs scandal yesterday, the outgoing irs commissioner steven miller who was fired because of the scandal came to ingraham's defense. >> why would you promote somebody in that position that was in charge that certainly has some controversy over the last couple years under an investigation. >> because she is a suburb civil servant. >> she had nothing to do with this? >> i wouldn't imagine so. >> reporter: and sandra levin that ingraham had any inkling of the problems in the division she used to head. >> arthel: that's very much. the question remains who within the obama administration knew about the irs investigation and when did they know it. we'll take a deeper look into the investigation with national review columnist john fund minutes from now. stick around. >> gregg: to another scandle. the congressional panel issuing a subpoena to retired ambassador thomas pickering as they try to determine if there was cover-up in the days after the september 11th attack in benghazi. elizabeth prann reports from washington. >> back and forth about witnesses testifyin
was forced out, steven miller, he was testifying on capitol hill. he said this. >> i think that what happened here was that foolish mistakes were made by people trying to be more efficient in their work load selection. the listing described in the report while intolerable was a mistake and not an act of partisanship. >> just a foolish mistake. >> what a tough sell. >> one thing comes out of the inspector general report is that when a more senior official was informed of this, she said this is unacceptable, you have to look at both sides, then they proceeded to go back to what they were doing in the first place. so i think it is harder to sell it as a foolish mistake. there was at the least a conscious decision that resisted even intervention from higher levels that kept moving this direction, singling out the conservative groups. >> going to release new polls on state of the union sunday morning on how the american people see this. >> which will directly impact what we're discussing here, which is how does the president move forward, does he still have as the question was put to him before th
targeting tea partiers until after the 2012 election. on friday, outgoing commissioner steven miller he knew of the practice over a year ago, yet he continued to defend the practice to congress, after attorneys flagged questions as "troubling." lisa meyers, cut to the chase. >> imagine, if you can, what would have happened if this fact came out in september 2012 in the middle of a presidential election. the terrain would have looked at the different. >> i'm not following. meanwhile, other outrageous outrage that is outrageous, the executive in charge of the tax exempt division, sarah hall-ingram, three names, was promoted to run the irs office responsible for obama care. we can agree that's the greatest thing ever. speaking of bad situations, look what happened to my cousin carl this week. this is still carl. he did this last week. that's how you found me. >> exactly. >> now we have a carl. don't take my job, carl. >> carl's the new repulsive side kick. this is a big question and a serious question. would we have a president mitt if this scandal had happened in september? my source, which is
. they said steven miller spent the last year singling out groupings. the criminal probe is now underway and miller responded carefully. >> i answered all questions truthfully. i did not mislead congress nor the american people. i answered all the questions i was asked. >> so your answer is. >> miller learned of the targeting last may two years after it started. the treasury secretary ordered the irs to review if it was a systemwide scandal. that report will be delivered to the president in a month. >>> meanwhile, we turn to the former mayor willie brown and san franciscocon cell -- chronicle's jerry g arofoli. what was president obama's reaction to this. he didn't react naturally like you and i have, especially the require -- with the irs and ap fallout. >> can't seem -- . >> i am sorry to tell you that is natural for him. [ laughter ] >> his reactions are natural. that is who he is. he's been a social worker pastorial responder to everything. zero emotions. you won't get him to do that, though. that is not how he operates. he measures every single solitary thing, meaning at no point do
trying to be so efficient. >> what's the promotion point. steven miller was fired he's gone. i understand obama does not -- did not take him out in the middle of times square and following him like people maybe would want but he is gone. i think this is a fair link. when you apply to tax exempt status can we not ask a question whether or not your application is correct. they do it correctly? no. perhaps a bit over zealous. >> we as taxpayers in the irs we get to have a convenient excuse sore he whii didn't know. they would take your business take your bank account. >> i don't think it would be in the purview of the irs it would be in the purview of congress. if the do nothing congress had acted and given us a guideline as to what constitutes a terrorist organization or not. >> let me ask you this. here is the question. the problem is not that they went through the forms and were diligent they were only diligent with one side they didn't put that to left wing groups. >> there are a lot of progressive groups in texas saying i didn't know it was illegal for the irs to ask me at that question
now have the resignation of the acting irs commissioner steven miller and from here they go with the recommendations from the ig report for something that is in front of his face but if you look at the next apps -- steps word does the criteria come from who is responsible for conservative organizations? that is not known and the department of justice is investigating. we have 45 republicans request all information about this e-mail is coming from the administration having to do with this. let's see if the president is willing to work with congress and what request goes too far from the administration to deny which given the history of investigation and you can imagine that will happen. gerri: a lot of unanswered questions and to ask for this in the first place? gerri: i went to bring back alan from ati. is this enough? i have the resignation of the acting commissioner bud does more neat to be done? is that the big thing that happened? >> in terms of resignation and there is obviously going to be other people involved that are more responsible than acting commissioner miller
into outgoing irs commissioner, steven miller this morning over the irs's alleged targeting of conservative groups. the question now is will today's testimony add more fuel to the fire for the scandal? joining me for more on this, steve moore from the "wall street journal" editorial board, former senior treasury department officials, susan, and forbes columnist, he's still there, rich unger. steve moore, starting with you, you did interesting writing and research on this. this may be just the tip of the iceberg. >> that's right. by the way, let me say this, melissa, that testimony today, i didn't listen to all of it, but i listened to a lot of it, and, obviously, the part where paul ryan was grilling him. i thought he came across -- he did himself and the democrats no favors. he came across as incredibly arrogant, incredibly evasive, and incredible unapologetic, exactly the opposite tone that you want when you go before a congressional committee, especially when, you know, you're so guilty know, these misdeeds. now, the point i was making, you know, we talk about the tea party groups and ta
: the outgoing irsng commissioner steven miller,ille pushed out because of the scandal, called ingram a quote, superb civil servant and tum griffin says she provide the quote, horrendous customer service implementing obama care as she did managing the tax exempt division.ion in washington molly henburg. >>> still ahead, a disturbingisu story out of arizona, a mother tries giving her baby away too complete strangers at a gas station. they're speaking out. o how much do you trust orteenagee son or daughter? dau there's new technology out track tg your child's every tech, e-mail and picture. that doesn't go too far. we'll be right back. did we get it? got it. yes! ♪ how do i make it stronger? [ male announcer ] when you've got fios quantum, you get america's fastest, most reliable internet. hey, so where's the big project? ...huh. call the verizon center for customers with disabilities at 800-974-6006 tty/v. [ male announcer ] technology that makes you feel superhuman... where do i sign in? [ male announcer ] that's powerful. switch to fios and we'll triple your speeds for free with an u
, steven miller was forced to resign, we're now learning from an internal irs memo that joseph grant, the commissioner of the tax-exempt government entities division has announced his plans to retire as well. that's the division responsible for targeting the conservative groups seeking stacks exempt status. the targeting of those conservative groups by the irs is certainly energizing the tea party movement across the country. our national political correspondent jim acosta is here in "the situation room" looking into this fascinating part of the story. what are you seeing? >> wolf, the irs mess has not only create add headache for president obama, it's also given a big shot in the arm to some of the biggest critics of this white house in the tea party. >> thank you everyone for being here. my name is michele bachmann. >> the tea party is back with a vengeance, thanks to the political targeting scandal at irs, tea partiers have their best recruiting tool in years. >> government agents have used the irs as a weapon to silence speech. >> at a news conference that drew top leaders, tea p
. scheduled to testify are steven miller and inspector general jay russell george. making it a little more complicated is this. joseph grant, the man in charge of the tax exempt division has announced plans to also step down on june 3rdrd. the woman who held a position before him, and the woman who was in charge when all of this got started, sarah engram is now heading up the irs division that is implementing part of the affordable care act. today's hearing is the first of three on what has gone down in the irs. the senate finance committee is going to hold its hearing on tuesday. and then the house oversight committee has its hearing on wednesday. if you think the guy in charge of the sequester was a lousy job, try being the guy in charge now of heading up the irs. president obama picked this man yesterday to take over. he comes to the office has a bipartisan past, he also served in president bush's administration. the president will have to pick somebody permanent and that person will have to be confirmed by the senate. we'll be back with more show after the break.
from steven miller in "usa today," he also writes -- host: will not be repeated. guest: right now i do not trust very much at all of what steven miller says. lois lerner said that it was only front-line employees? the deputy commissioner, now the acting commissioner of the irs and knew about this? new about it in 2011? this was not just front-line employees. it makes it very difficult for us to trust him. this is the problem, one of the reasons why it is such a huge problem. the irs, these servants, not elected, they abused their power. they abused their authority. when you abuse your authority and power, the people in the country quit trusting you. they brought this on themselves. it is very hard to trust anything he says. i understand that there are rules and laws that we have to work within, i know the irs has to do that. our organization has been so cautious. we have done everything we can, probably limiting ourselves and not even fully doing " we are allowed to do because of this process. yes, each case must be taking in the -- must be taken individually, but they are not doing th
give you a little bit of context about who steven miller is, and why he was in the hot seat, perhaps, more than anybody right now. because he is the acting commissioner of the irs. he, we now know, was told about this targeting last year. and may 3rd of 2012. he did not tell congress about it. he had various kinds of communications and letters and meetings and so forth, and he didn't -- he neglected to tell congress, he didn't disclose it. never mind that, he didn't just voluntarily call and say, i found this out. that's why consider the fact that he is the current head. he was the person who was going to absolutely get raked over the coals. he was supposed to testify day after tomorrow, on friday, before the house ways and means committee. clearly don't expect that to happen now. but we'll see when we hear back from the house ways and means office about that. but that's why this is so important. the other thing to keep in mind is that the irs is generally kind of a protected place on purpose. there are few political appointees, only two, he is one of them. so this is a quick and eas
're following on "world news now." >>> the acting irs commissioner steven miller is out of a job, accused of targeting tea party groups. president obama is promising to put safeguards in place so similar targeting never happens again. >>> newly released e-mails about the benghazi attacks confirm, abc news reporting, they show administration talking points underwent changes after the state department expressed concerns. those edits include the deletion of cia warnings about terror threats in benghazi. >>> lawyers for kidnapping suspect ariel castro say he intends to plead not guilty. they also doubt whether castro will be able to find a fair trial anywhere in america. >>> and nobody won last night's $363 million powerball jackpot. that means saturday night's drawing -- are you ready for this -- $75 million. those are our top stories on this thursday, may 16th. >> announcer: from abc news, this is "world news now" with john muller and diana perez. >> i'm driving to work here in the wee hours, just before the drawing, and i realize, after reading about the lottery all day yesterday, i forgot
than 6. nasdaq 5. >> stinky earnings. here are your morning headlines. steven miller was dismissed as interim irs commissioner in the wake of targeting conservative groups will be questioned by the house ways and means committee. wow. they were quick on that. only came out tuesday. we'll speak with dave camp ahead of that hearing. >>> jpmorgan stepping up. sent a letter to rejecting a proposal that would affect such a split. the letter was directed to those who haven't yet voted ahead of the annual meeting on tuesday. dish network asking the fcc its acquisition of sprint. it asked wall street investment banks. >> we have a bit of tech news. yahoo! may want to buy ittumblr. it would value the company at a billion bucks. interesting to see if willing to shell out a billion dollars. henry blogett is here. can't afford twitter. >> are you able to comment on something yahoo! related. >> i won't say too much. but it's interesting. >> there was a time with we traded 10 overvalued cats for 10 overvalued dogs. >> a billion dollars is as much as they can afford. it's young, hip. it needs tha
. on the right, that's steven miller, acting irs commissioner. he submitted histion and on the left is russell, he's the irs official who investigated this matter. first, listen to steven miller. >> as acting commissioner, i want to apologize on behalf of the internal revenue service for the mistakes we made and the poor service we provided. i do not believe that partisanship motivated the people who engaged in the practices described in the treasury inspector general's report. i think that what happened here was that foolish mistakes were made by people trying to be more efficient in their work load selection. >> well, mr. miller also said that the problems occurred in cincinnati, which is home of something called the determinations unit. determinations unit. regardless of what you think of that name, he said overwhelmed workers started taking some short cuts after applications for tax exempt status jumped fourfold. thank you, citizens united. so republican congressman paul ryan wanted to know did those short cuts also include flagging just progressive groups or conservative groups and progre
that they asked for the resignation of steven miller who did resign and installed the new director last week and then, you know, they're saying, the president said that i'm going to go ahead and direct jack lew, the treasury secretary for the recommendations and we'll do that. on the other front was get outside the beltway, go to baltimore and talk about jobs and try to get back to his agenda, but that's not going to be easy. congress will have a number more hearings and you'll see danny go out there and the problem with steven miller's testimony is you leave questions unanswered so it will be hard for the white house to get by, most notably, whose idea this was for the irs to go after conservative and tea party groups. that has not really been explained and until that is, this thing is going to keep going. >> there were a lot of questions that were repeated and he got a barrage of questions over and over again for which he did not have answers. >> lauren, former senior adviser to president obama, david axelrod, he spoke about the problems plaguing the administration and here's what he said.
to the people of this country. . when steven miller comes out and says anything at all, it makes it very difficult for us to trust him. this is the problem. this is one of the reasons why it's such a huge problem. the i.r.s. and these un-elected bureaucrats who are supposed to be public servants, serving the public and community and citizens of this country, abused their power. they abused their authority. when you abuse your authority and you abuse your power, the people in the country quit trusting you. and they brought this on themselves. so i -- it's very hard to trust anything he says. now, i understand that there are rules and laws that we have to work within those and the i.r.s. does have to do that. our organization at tea party patriots has erred so cautiously, we have done everything we can, probably limiting ourselves and not even fully doing what we are allowed to do through a 501-c-4 because of this process. yes, each case must be taken individually. they weren't doing that. they were grouping them all together. i really don't trust the i.r.s. at this point. and i think the
were targeting tea party groups as early as 2011. acting irs commissioner steven miller testified before a house ways and means s*upb committee and was asked specifically about tax exempt groups in a texas doctor is strict they harassed. he responded. we did group those organizations together to insure consistency and quality. we continued to, would the cases, end quote. he made no mention of tea party groups being specifically targeted. listen up. >> if you use constitution, bill of rights, patriot, or tea party you were likely to have a very rough time, where apparently if you used progressive, or move on you were not. this kind of targeting is what we knew before the election and now we have proof. >> reporter: the house ways and means, government oversight and the senate finance committee all plan investigations. the irs inspector general's report on the matter is expected to be released any day now, jon. jon: there are also indications that in 2010 the chairman much the senate finance committee may have somehow pushed the irs into taking a closer look at conservative groups?
be the first in a series of hearings and investigations. as you pointed out, outgoing irs commissioner steven miller really got a grilling. it was a contentious hearing, and there was bipartisan outrage at times, alex, something we don't usually see. miller did apologize for not telling earlier about the fact that the irs had been targeting tea party and other conservative groups that applied for tax exempt status. he also said the irs planned to publish this in may by planting an answer at a q&a at a legal conference that was held. he said, look, this was not political. this was a foolish mistake. alex, there were a number of heated exchanges. take a listen to one of them. >> do you not think that congress has the right to know all the information that you knew? >> so, look -- >> did this committee -- >> congress was going to find out -- >> mr. miller, does this committee have the right to know the information that you knew? yes or no? >> this committee was always going to get that information. >> yes or no, that's an easy one. you testified before this committee, mr. miller, and did not --
called for the immediate resignation of acting i.r.s. commissioner steven miller in light of the i.r.s.'s admission that it targeted conservative groups for inappropriate scrutiny. while i was willing to give mr. miller and other i.r.s. officials the benefit of the doubt until the facts were in, the treasury inspector general report released on tuesday has erased any doubts as to the severity of the misconduct and blatant incompetence in dealing with it at the highest levels of the i.r.s. i'm pleased that president obama chose to heed the call that i made and others as well by dismissing mr. miller last nig night. this is a necessary step but only a first step toward restoring the credibility and the integrity of the i.r.s. this scandal is much larger than any one official within the i.r.s. any government official who knew about the misconduct within the i.r.s. and decided not to make this information public should be held accountable. no american taxpayer should ever have to worry that a group they belong to or a view that they espouse will subject them to less favorable tax treat
in florida senator marco rubio called for steven miller to step down. he said, quote, it is clear the irs cannot operate with even a shred of the american he's amendment confidence under the current leadership. and it is drawing criticism from
for steven miller to step down. he said, quote, it is clear the irs cannot operate with even a shred of the american he's amendment confidence under the current leadership. and it is drawing criticism from the democrats as well. the actions of the irs are unacceptable and unamerican. virginia senator tim kaine said there's no excuse for ideological discrimination in our system. the flood gates have open. i have senator shaheen with a comment. senator warren, ron johnson as well. so aed in gate of lawmakers now commenting on this irs scandal from both sides of the aisle. >> absolutely. that flood gate will surely open up to investigations that will be conducted by the senate and the house. chairman baucus saying he will use his committee in order to look at what happened at the irs. the house republicans stating the same, including speaker boehner. it is very interesting. for a lot of republicans, they feel this is a huge win because they had been claiming this for a while. going back through old testimony, mr. doug schuman who used to be under the irs, his term ended in 2012, he test
.r.s. commissioner steven miller. the senate's democratic majority leader harry reid also spoke out. >> the alleged actions of i.r.s. employees in the cincinatti field office would be a terrible breach of the public's trust. whether investigating conservative groups or liberal groups, they should not be involved in this. targeting any group based on its political stance is completely inappropriate. >> woodruff: the chair of the senate finance committee, montana democrat max baucus, has said his panel will look into the matter. and two republican committee chairs in the house also have vowed to investigate. late today the house ways and means committee announced it will hold a hearing this friday. to help us understand the tax law, and what the groups are charging, we are joined by duke university law school professor richard schmalbeck. he's a former tax attorney. and former i.r.s. attorney jay sekulow. as chief counsel at the american center for the law and justice, he is representing tea party organizations. he also hosts a conservative talk radio program. gentlemen, welcome to you both. jay seku
commander barry. >> acting commissioner steven miller was first informed groups were being targeted. tell congress about controversy. senator al franken meantime.says that the questions for conservative political groups aren't totally without merit. our political analyst michael yaki is here. michael -- could this mean serious fall-out for the white house? and if you'd like to connect with michael yaki. you can find him on twitter, his handle is at- yaki-blog. >> in order for people to give the money and also not be disclosed to they are the 5 01 people will have to spend at least 50% on actual social welfare. so some of these organizations have beennd more on just pure politics. in line so it is a legitimate inquiry by the irs. >> the problem is that you can't take criteria targeted this the constitution protect the first amendment. >> it just feeds distrust in government. the integrity unit that deals with the 5 01 c 4 cannot simply say we will take these group and go after them. >> if they were having concerns whether these 5 01 c fours spending more than 50% they were allowed to stand
that shulman's deputy, the current acting irs commissioner, steven miller, was informed of the targeting in may of 2012. meanwhile, new documents obtained by "the washington post" showing that the operation was not just carried out by rogue agents in cincinnati, irs officials in washington and at least two other offices were involved with investigating conservative groups. two separate house committees, oversight and government reform and ways and means will investigate the irs. with the first hearing by the ways and means committee set for friday. joining me right now is the top democrat on the house ways and means committee, congressman sander levin of michigan. dave camp of michigan said news that the agency targeted american taxpayers based on politics is both astounding and appalling. he vowed to get to the bottom of this, practice of it, and ensure it never happens again. who will the committee hear from and what will it learn about what took place? >> we'll hear from the acting commissioner and also inspector general. chairman camp talked before the announcement was issued. we agreed to
groups to determine their eligibility for tax exemption. the irs says steven miller who's been serving as acting commissioner since last fall was told this has been happening, well, was happening back in may of 2012, about a year after lois lerner who oversees that division was informed himself. miller wrote in "usa today" in part, "we should have done a better job of handling the influx of applications by add o advocacy groups. mistakes were made but in no way due to political or partisan motivation." "there was a shortcut taken in our processes. the mistakes we made were due to absence of sufficient process for working the increase in cases and a lack of sensitivity to the implications some of the decisions that were made." senator sherrod brown is a democrat from ohio and member of the banking and finance committees. senator brown, does this cover it, lack of sensitivity when you see patriot and tea party on the name of a group and you don't know it's a right wing group? is that conceivable that a person wouldn't know that? and if they didn't know it, why would they be looking for
. >> does holder survive? >> somebody's head is going to roll, maybe steven miller at the irs, but holder is at the top. and obama is going to have to have somebody take the blame. >> all right, very good. thanks. tom kern, we appreciate it very much. two special counsels tonight. nice going. >>> one scandal that does not involve team obama, the scandal at bloomberg where it may not just be reporters who accessed what should have been private client information from bloomberg terminal. here is my question. did anyone at bloomberg in their broker/dealer make money off this information? and if so, isn't that a serious financial crime? that story and much more coming up. girl vo: i'm pretty conservative. very logical thinker. (laughs) i'm telling you right now, the girl back at home would absolutely not have taken a zip line in the jungle. (screams) i'm really glad that girl stayed at home. vo: expedia helps 30 million travelers a month find what they're looking for. one traveler at a time. expedia. find yours. good afternoon. chase sapphire. (push button tone) this is stacy from springfield
publicly the acting commissioner of the irs, steven miller, testify on friday. you can bet that that and many other questions are going to be asked of him, because it doesn't fully explain it because it simply says that officials up to the senior level, relatively senior level, knew and even though they said they stopped it, they didn't stop it. in fact, there still is in this irs inspector general's report kind of a back and forth with the irs about whether they fixed it as we speak. >> how are they going to keep their jobs, i have no idea. dana, we'll have more on this shortly in the program. we'll talk to you again and also david gergen. >>> we want to turn to the alleged spy plot and what it may mean for the boston bombing investigation. since the attack russian intelligence officials have been cooperating with the u.s. as investigators try to learn more about the accused bombers, tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev. today, a cold war flashback. russian officials expelled a u.s. diplomat they claim is an undercover cia officer, saying they caught him red-handed disguised in
've heard a lot of people. mark ro rubio called for the resignation of the irs acting commissioner steven miller, and several democrats, at least have echoed that call. john boehner, though, the speaker of the house went further. he said this isn't about who gets fired and who doesn't. this is about who winds up behind bars. is that too much, given what we know? or do you think that's an appropriate level of concern? against you're speaking from somebody who fought this battle. >> i don't know what the laws are that they broke, so it's hard for me to answer that and say, okay, criminal charges, they need to be put into jail. i don't know what the laws are. what i know is the people who did this, they need to be held accountable, and procedures and laws need to be put in place so this doesn't happen again. they used the irs as a political weapon. we can't have that, no matter whether you're republican or democrat, left or right, the irs is not supposed to be a political weapon. we cannot have that in our government. >> i've asked this of other folks. in your mind, is it your belief that ca
coming up. you've got friday, house ways and means committee they've got steven miller, of the acting irs commissioner will be there tuesday, a senate finance committee hearing where inspect general russell will be there wednesday, i think kelly o'donnell called it a hearingpalooza. but anna, the democrats believing being bogged down with the hearing over benghazi and now a week of hearings planned, while immigration and other issues that are very important have disappeared. at least on the front page, i should say. >> yeah, absolutely. i think what, as a reporter in the capital, we're asking lawmakers in the days coming forward will this poison the well in the outreach that obama had been doing, having dinner with republicans trying to get a big deal on the deficit. do these three issues, benghazi, the irs and the ap scandal make it so there will be no discussion in the coming months. >> governor rendell. i want to play this rnc video. its vitaled demand transappears. >> to hold it accountable. there's many secrecy in the city. i will also hold myself as president to a new standard. >> s
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